Wednesday, March 03, 2010

Thoughts on Homeschooled Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts

This article was published today by Scouting magazine, a print publication (with related web content) sent to all Cub Scout and Boy Scout volunteers. As a Scouting volunteer (in my seventh year of service), I receive this publication.

I read this online article today which I actually found through my Google news feed for keyword "homeschooling". Overall the article is positive and seeks to inform Cub Scout Packs that homeschooled children should be tapped for Scouts. It is less enthusiastic about asking busy homeschool parents to volunteer with the organization.

If I had written this article I may not have said that to increase enrollment with homeschooling families should make extra effort to contact homeschoolers directly. Instead I would have said that Scout Leadership NOT do all communications through the public school.

Also any efforts that can be done at meetings to promote socialization with the Scouts who know each other from school to not only socialize with their cliques would be appreciated. It is best for children to learn to socialize with people they don't know and this includes the schooled children being friendly to the homeschooled and private schooled kids. Remember it is usually the homeschooled child usually joins a Den or Troop knowing NO ONE. If that is not brave, I don't know what is. Once a homeschooler is in the organization he should be welcomed not allowed to be ostracized.

In my area lots of kids are privately educated yet the parent-volunteers whose children are enrolled in the public school choose to only communicate through venues such as mention registration events in the PTA newsletter or by distributing flyers through the public school. In a Den of six Cubs, we had two homeschooled, one in parochial school, one in an academic-focused private school, one in a private school for learning disabled kids, and one in public school. Yet the Den Leader who was also the Cubmaster only communicated through the public school venues.

Over time I felt this was a problem with the Pack I volunteered with and my complaints fell on deaf ears. If our Den had 5 out of 6 kids not in public school and the Pack wanted to enroll new Scouts it was clear we had to be more inclusive. The Packs should reach out to the entire community by focusing on more public invitations such as signs placed in the town (usually these are given out for free by the Council) and by mentions in the local town newspaper. If the town has a free local paper that is a great way to publicize since every household receives it. If you know the town only has paid newspapers you should be sure to focus on signage in key locations in town since not everyone may subscribe to that newspaper.

Homeschoolers are always on the lookout for new opportunities, their eyes are always peeled for information, if you publicize it well to the entire community they will hear about it.

The comment about homeschoolers being able to "build their life around" Scouting is a bit much. I believe we do have more flexibility such as if we have to meet a deadline to finish assignments for requirements or a rank we can put more time to it if we make it a priority. Also a number of the activities that are assigned to do together as a family are already done by homeschooling families in normal family life such as cooking together, planning meals together, and playing board games. Going to a museum, reading an American folktale, or even building a model rocket, are commonly done as part of their homeschool academics so these requirements are quickly fulfilled without ANY extra effort!

I also feel the larger issue is that many homeschoolers are usually "all in" -- when we choose to commit to something we want to do it right.

We homeschool parents are responsible people; after all, we have taken on the huge responsibility to educate our own children. Our children learn by their parent's example. So when our children commit to Scouting we homeschooling parents want to help our children see them through their obligation. We try to meet deadlines and we are here to help our child complete their requirements.

I'm surprised the article downplayed homeschool parents as volunteers. In the Packs and Troop we've been involved with since 2003, homeschooled parents have done volunteer work and often BOTH the mother and the father were involved. Positions included: Cubmaster (2), Assistant Cubmaster (2), Pack Secretary, Pack Committee Member, Den Leader (3), Assistant Den Leader (1), Troop Advancement Chair, and Troop Committee Member.

The activities of Scouting are educational, skill-building, or character building and all the activities done for requirements are worthwhile experiences. Homeschooling parents usually won't complain about requirements for rank, or try to weasel out of doing them by complaining that the child is too busy or making a judgment that the activity is stupid or is old-fashioned. Instead we teach our children to follow-through and to see the good that comes of learning something new, to look on the bright side.

What homeschoolers need to know about Scouting is that while there is an official BSA program each Pack and Troop has their own flavor. Due to the fact that the programs are run by people, there are differences due to the varied leadership styles of the volunteer adults running the program. If you hear something bad about a Pack or Troop, keep an open mind and look for a different chartered organization rather than not join at all. If the organization you are enrolled with has issues, consider finding a different Pack or Troop.

Of lesser concern to me in this article is the mention that homeschool families tend to be larger than other families. This is a common stereotype. That may or may not be true in Texas where the writer is. Here in Connecticut this seems to not be the case. While I do know one family with six kids and one with eight, the majority of families I know have two or three children and there are a number of singletons.

What Scout volunteers need to know about homeschoolers is we are a varied bunch, we come in all shapes and sizes and we should not be stereotyped. Some children start off in school and are pulled out to homeschool, some start out homeschooling and wind up in school and some have always been homeschooled. We each have different reasons for homeschooling and there is no reason to try to categorize or pigeon-hole us.

7 comments:

Welcome!!! said...

I think you need to send this thoughtful reply into the Scouting Magazine!

We just started our Scouting journey and are really excited. Ironically, as a HS mom, I already volunteered to help with a banquet and summer camp. Hmmmm... Maybe they won't want me. LOL!!

One thing that did concern me was the potential for ostracizing. My son is amazingly outgoing, athletic, and a natural leader, so I think he'll be fine. I am hoping he is, anyway. You are right on about the achievements, at least as far as I've seen for Cub Scouts. 95% of stuff looked like things we'd don normally in our school routine. But - I love the framework and it looks like a blast. We're really excited to start out - as a family.

Anyway - love your blog and can't wait to see your reply published in Scouting. ;)

LivingByLearning said...

My son is the only homeschooled child in our Cub Scout pack, but my husband is the Den leader (and I'm the one that does most of the organizing & communication.) Honestly, I never even thought about reaching out to the larger community to include kids who don't attend the school that the den is based at.

In this case, there just aren't other homeschoolers in our community, except one girl. I regularly travel to outlying towns for homeschool events.

Definitely, food for thought. I'll have to think about how or if it's worth trying to reach outside of the school when the pack does recruitment.

Sebastian said...

My eye caught some of the same things that you mentioned. However, I think I took them more as a gentle way of pointing out that homeschoolers are still busy people who shouldn't be expected to step up an take over heavy volunteer positions just because they don't hold outside jobs. I've also been reluctant to be my sons' den leader because I think that they see me all day and can get a lot of good out of seeing someone else's leadership once in a while. So I try to do jobs like advancement or pack trainer.
FWIW, when we move and have to consider a new pack, I typically don't even consider one that is chartered by a PTA because I figure that my kid will be the odd one out. A pack chartered by a compatible church or a civic group is more likely to have scouts who aren't already bosom buddies at school.
The comment about other kids of course doesn't hold true across the board. But I do think that homeschoolers are more likely to have younger kids who are tag alongs than many other families. One thing that I've tried to do as a den leader is make sure that younger sibs were welcome, either in the meeting room or somewhere nearby.
But I do very much like your points about recruitment needing to go well beyond the public schoolhouse doors. Not only does it miss many kids (and some good adults) but it also has the potential to fall victim to the whims of the school on allowing the promotion of BSA in the first place.

Soulful said...

Hi, Christine-

Our youngest son is 7, and we sent him to a Christian pre-K and K before sending him for only one year to the public school (we live in Hartford, CT). We now homeschool him.

While he was a first-grader, we signed him up for the local Cub Scout troop, but never heard anything from the den leader. He, again, has expressed interest in scouting (both of us were scouts when we were growing up), but I don't know how to find a den for him.

Can you please advise?

christinemm said...

Hi Soulful,
Call your Council and politely explain the situation and get names and numbers of Cubmasters to call to discuss this. You may need to also use email to try to get them.

Be persistant in getting a reply back. But remember these people are all volunteers. Some of them work full time and some also travel on business in addition to volunteering their time.

You can join at any time in the year but if you join now you may have to do extra work at home to make rank by June 30 (the cut off for getting that rank). Some or many Cub Scout Packs work to get rank by the Blue and Gold dinner which is in Feb or March. Do not worry if your child doesn't make rank by then if you join in December! So long as you can convince your son to keep working with you to make up the lost work and get it done by June it will be okay.

If you find a Den that is not a good fit after giving it a try for a while find a new Den in the Pack or even change Packs.

People are imperfect including the volunteer leaders. You may wind up with a Den Leader who you are unhappy with (example from our experience: not holding regular Den meetings, calling me to ask if I can be at their house in 10 minutes for a meeting that was not scheudled ahead of time, holding chaotic meetings with hyperactive kids, etc.). If you feel you can handle the job and would make a good leader then you can consider becoming a volunteer Den Leader yourself (as I have done).

When being the leader you see how much work it is and how hard it is to be a perfect leader to all the kids and in the eyes of all the parents. It is hard to keep everyone happy all the time.

It is a good program if you find a good fit.

My older son made 2 of his best friends who are schooled kids through Cub Scouts but the bulk of their relationship happened outside of Scouts with those boys after the initial meet up at Cubs.

Some of the early Cub meetings have the drawbacks of schools that you may wish to avoid in your homeschooling decision but I think that a small amount of reality of same-aged peer groups in organized activities done under supervision is not harmful and builds character. Kids have to learn to deal with adversity and perhaps sit through a 'boring' topic meeting where they learn something that is good to know but not of personal interest for them, for example. Or they may have to deal with a rude kid for example. I taught my kids classroom etiquette through Cub Scouts and they are good kids in formal academic classes now.

christinemm said...

Hi Soulful,
Call your Council and politely explain the situation and get names and numbers of Cubmasters to call to discuss this. You may need to also use email to try to get them.

Be persistant in getting a reply back. But remember these people are all volunteers. Some of them work full time and some also travel on business in addition to volunteering their time.

You can join at any time in the year but if you join now you may have to do extra work at home to make rank by June 30 (the cut off for getting that rank). Some or many Cub Scout Packs work to get rank by the Blue and Gold dinner which is in Feb or March. Do not worry if your child doesn't make rank by then if you join in December! So long as you can convince your son to keep working with you to make up the lost work and get it done by June it will be okay.

If you find a Den that is not a good fit after giving it a try for a while find a new Den in the Pack or even change Packs.

People are imperfect including the volunteer leaders. You may wind up with a Den Leader who you are unhappy with (example from our experience: not holding regular Den meetings, calling me to ask if I can be at their house in 10 minutes for a meeting that was not scheudled ahead of time, holding chaotic meetings with hyperactive kids, etc.). If you feel you can handle the job and would make a good leader then you can consider becoming a volunteer Den Leader yourself (as I have done).

When being the leader you see how much work it is and how hard it is to be a perfect leader to all the kids and in the eyes of all the parents. It is hard to keep everyone happy all the time.

It is a good program if you find a good fit.

My older son made 2 of his best friends who are schooled kids through Cub Scouts but the bulk of their relationship happened outside of Scouts with those boys after the initial meet up at Cubs.

Some of the early Cub meetings have the drawbacks of schools that you may wish to avoid in your homeschooling decision but I think that a small amount of reality of same-aged peer groups in organized activities done under supervision is not harmful and builds character. Kids have to learn to deal with adversity and perhaps sit through a 'boring' topic meeting where they learn something that is good to know but not of personal interest for them, for example. Or they may have to deal with a rude kid for example. I taught my kids classroom etiquette through Cub Scouts and they are good kids in formal academic classes now.

christinemm said...

Hi Soulful,
Call your Council and politely explain the situation and get names and numbers of Cubmasters to call to discuss this. You may need to also use email to try to get them.

Be persistant in getting a reply back. But remember these people are all volunteers. Some of them work full time and some also travel on business in addition to volunteering their time.

You can join at any time in the year but if you join now you may have to do extra work at home to make rank by June 30 (the cut off for getting that rank). Some or many Cub Scout Packs work to get rank by the Blue and Gold dinner which is in Feb or March. Do not worry if your child doesn't make rank by then if you join in December! So long as you can convince your son to keep working with you to make up the lost work and get it done by June it will be okay.

If you find a Den that is not a good fit after giving it a try for a while find a new Den in the Pack or even change Packs.

People are imperfect including the volunteer leaders. You may wind up with a Den Leader who you are unhappy with (example from our experience: not holding regular Den meetings, calling me to ask if I can be at their house in 10 minutes for a meeting that was not scheudled ahead of time, holding chaotic meetings with hyperactive kids, etc.). If you feel you can handle the job and would make a good leader then you can consider becoming a volunteer Den Leader yourself (as I have done).

When being the leader you see how much work it is and how hard it is to be a perfect leader to all the kids and in the eyes of all the parents. It is hard to keep everyone happy all the time.

It is a good program if you find a good fit.

My older son made 2 of his best friends who are schooled kids through Cub Scouts but the bulk of their relationship happened outside of Scouts with those boys after the initial meet up at Cubs.

Some of the early Cub meetings have the drawbacks of schools that you may wish to avoid in your homeschooling decision but I think that a small amount of reality of same-aged peer groups in organized activities done under supervision is not harmful and builds character. Kids have to learn to deal with adversity and perhaps sit through a 'boring' topic meeting where they learn something that is good to know but not of personal interest for them, for example. Or they may have to deal with a rude kid for example. I taught my kids classroom etiquette through Cub Scouts and they are good kids in formal academic classes now.